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Colin Craig not sure man walked on moon
NBR Staff | Wednesday December 04, 2013
The leader of New Zealand’s fastest-rising political party, Colin Craig, says he’s not sure man walked on the moon and hasn’t even ruled out conspiracy theories about the 2011 terrorist attacks in the United States.
On a radio show this morning, Mr Craig says he doesn’t have time to look into these matters and it’s not a priority for him – his priorities are making sure New Zealanders have jobs, houses and can succeed.
Less than a year out from a general election, and with National’s coalition partners ACT and United Future having their own issues, the Conservatives are being touted as a potential coalition partner for Prime Minister John Key’s party.
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Simon Pollard is Adjunct Professor in Science Communication at the University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand. He is a specialist on spiders, and previously he was Curator of Invertebrate Zoology at Canterbury Museum. He is an award-winning natural history photographer and writer. He is an advisor, scriptwriter and presenter of a natural history documentaries, including the BBC series Planet Earth.
On Wednesday 20th November he was interviewed about ‘conspiracy theories’ on New Zealand National Radio programme Nine-to-Noon by Kathryn Ryan under the title: “Science with Simon Pollard”.
An Open Letter to Simon Pollard
by Martin Hanson, retired science teacher
Following your interview with Kathryn Ryan on Nine-to-Noon, I wrote to you to express my disappointment at your casual dismissal of those people who do not believe that The 911 Commission Report is a truthful account of what happened in the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington on September 11th 2001. Your unwillingness to reply itself constitutes a kind of reply – that you are unwilling to engage in an academic debate.
Insouciant dismissal of serious academic matters may satisfy some Nine-to-Noon listeners, but for an increasingly skeptical and thoughtful public, it won’t wash. Even an arachnologist must know that gravity acts strictly downward! The photo of the collapse of Tower 1 in the World Trade Center proves that powerful lateral forces were at work in the ‘collapse’ of the towers. Given that over 100 eye-witnesses testified to explosions on that day, your silence speaks eloquently for your position on the issue.
Although some conspiracy theories are just plain silly, it’s important to point out that a conspiracy is nothing more than a process in which two or more people get together in secret to achieve an illegal or immoral end. Conspiracies are actually very common, but in popular use the term ‘conspiracy theory’ has come to take on a strongly pejorative connotation. The term was deliberately introduced into the popular lexicon by the CIA in an attempt to counter suggestions that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone but was part of a larger conspiracy. Since then, and especially after 911, it has been systematically used by the media as a put-down to stifle any consideration of evidence.
Having said that, I have to agree with you that the term ‘conspiracy theorist’ is justifiably disparaging. I have personal knowledge of several individuals who seem to have a deep psychological need to distrust authority and consequently look for conspiracies even when they do not exist.
One who has achieved internet fame is Alex Jones who, in proclaiming that Global Warming is a conspiracy, makes the very idea of ‘conspiracy’ disreputable in the public mind. When such scientific ignoramuses also happen to believe that 911 was an ‘inside job’, it is only too easy to discredit the latter views by tainting them by association with the former.
The Heartland Institute used this tactic by putting up a billboard in Chicago featuring Ted Kaczynski, otherwise known as the Unabomber. Alongside Kaczynski’s mugshot were the words: “I still believe in Global Warming. Do you?” The intention was to put up similar billboards featuring Charles Manson and Fidel Castro, both of whom may have had related beliefs, but the scheme was cancelled before it could get airborne.
As you know, science is an activity of organized inquiry into natural phenomena, in which observations provoke questions, which lead to hypotheses that can be tested by experiment and further observation.
Beliefs that are not accessible to observation and experiment do not fall within the purview of science. Bertrand Russell famously said that he couldn’t prove that there wasn’t a teapot going round the sun between the orbits of Earth and Mars, but no sane person would use this as an argument for its existence.
Unlike Russell’s celestial teapot, the evidence surrounding the events of 911 is an embarrassment of riches, even for the most square-eyed troglodyte whose window on the world is limited to Fox News or The Sun newspaper. The trouble is, the most significant news items appeared for only a very short time after 911 and were soon buried and forgotten by the vast majority of the public.
The media have gone to great lengths to exclude from the public consciousness any evidence that is inconsistent with the official account. Truckloads of evidence have been published in many documentaries and books (I have over 25 on my own shelves). Almost none of these have been mentioned, let alone reviewed, by the media —except to condemn without mentioning any of the evidence they adduce. Amongst the most powerful are The New Pearl Harbor, and nine other books by Professor David Ray Griffin.
I realize that you might well say that thousands of nutty books have been published on innumerable subjects, so the credibility of a case can’t be measured by the number of books written about it. You’d be right, but what you can’t dismiss as conspiracy fantasy is the fact that literally thousands of professors and other academics and professional people round the world have called for a new and genuinely independent inquiry. There are now over a dozen organizations calling for such an inquiry, for example:
- U.S. Military Officers for 9/11 Truth http://www.militaryofficersfor911truth.org/
- Actors and Artists for 9/11 Truth http://actorsandartistsfor911truth.org/
- Scientists for 9/11 Truth http://scientistsfor911truth.org/
- Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (2100 signatories at latest count) http://ae911truth.org/
- Firefighters for 9/11 Truth http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
- Intelligence Officers for 9/11 Truth http://io911truth.com/
- Pilots for 9/11 Truth http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/
- Journalists and Other Media Professionals for 9/11 Truth http://www.mediafor911truth.org/
- Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth http://mp911truth.org/
- Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth http://pl911truth.com/
- Lawyers for 9/11 Truth http://www.l911t.com/
- Veterans for 9/11 Truth http://www.v911t.org/
- Scholars for 9/11 Truth http://stj911.org/
In addition to these organizations and their thousands of supporters, a number of highly distinguished individuals with impeccable intellectual credentials have publicly doubted the official story. To mention just a few:
- Richard Falk, Emeritus Professor of International Law at Princeton University
- Michael Meacher, ex British Cabinet Minister http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvjvmNPYs0
- Andreas von Bülow, ex German Governnment Minister
- Paul Craig Roberts, who was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration and is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal.
- Ferdinando Imposimato, honorary President of the Supreme Court of Italy, and former Senior Investigative Judge, Italy.
I think you’d agree that it is highly unlikely that people in such high positions are crackpots. Therefore, we should at least pay attention to what they have to say, rather than uncritically accepting media put-downs. In the spirit of the scientific method, we should study the evidence for ourselves.
The trouble is that the evidence is so mountainous that I must limit myself to listing the topics, leaving it to you to look into the details. So, here they are:
1. Video evidence, for example the video analysis of collapse of the WTC towers, by physicist David Chandler:
North Tower Exploding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgN080yySe0
WTC7 Freefall: No longer controversial (revised): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I
Also the video Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw2vaEg
2. Planted Evidence The most egregious (and laughable) of numerous examples: ABC News and the Associated Press reported that the virtually undamaged passport of hijacker Satam Al Suqami was found a few blocks from the WTC.
3. Destruction and Confiscation of Evidence
Immediately after 911 nearly all the steel was hurriedly exported to Asia, thus preventing forensic examination of the steelwork. Thus the biggest crime in U.S. history was made an exception to the Federal law that forbids interference with a crime scene.
Within 5 minutes of the attack on the Pentagon, FBI agents confiscated videotapes from the nearby Sheraton National Hotel and Citco Gas Station http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_15.htm .
Immediately after the Pentagon attack, Federal agents removed many small fragments from the lawn in front of the Pentagon, and later the lawn was covered with sand.
4. Withholding of Evidence
After 911, the New York Fire Department interviewed firefighters, paramedics and other first responders. Of the 503 interviewees, 118 reported hearing or seeing explosions prior to and during the collapse of the Twin Towers. These ‘oral histories’ were suppressed by the New York authorities until forced by court action to release them.
Though the Pentagon is the most heavily surveilled building in the whole of the United States, only 5 frames of a video camera were released – despite the presence of dozens of (reportedly 83) video cameras.
5. Almost complete absence of Aircraft wreckage at both the Pentagon (Flight 77) and Shanksville (Flight 93) crash sites –in contrast to all other terrestrial aircraft sites, where bodies, aircraft wreckage, luggage, etc are the norm (though an unsinged Shia bandana was reportedly found!).
6. Guilty Behaviour by the White House.
The Bush Administration was deeply unwilling to hold an inquiry into the biggest crime in American history, and only after intense pressure (and over 400 days after the event) did they agree. And then, they allotted initially only $3 million (in contrast to the $50 million given to the Challenger Inquiry).
After it was set up, the 911 Commission was overseen by Phillip Zelikow, who had been a close colleague of Condoleezza Rice, and was thus for all practical purposes a White House insider. Zelikow decided what witnesses would be heard and what would be in the Report.
As documented in Philip Shenon’s book The Commission, Zelikow had written the outline of the Report before the hearings began, and during the hearings he was in telephone contact with Carl Rove, Senior Adviser and Assistant to President Bush). So much for the ‘independence’ of the 911 Commission of Inquiry!
When Bush and Cheney were interviewed by the Commission, they did not appear under oath, meaning that they did not have to tell the truth.
Much of the evidence provided by CIA interrogation of al-Qaida suspects was based on torture. Commissioners were not allowed to interview suspects, or even their CIA interrogators. Taped evidence of interrogations had been destroyed.
Insider Trading In the days prior to 911, there was a burst of highly unusual trading on the stock market, giving strong indication of foreknowledge. http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html
‘Dancing Israelis’ The New York Times reported that five men had set up video cameras prior to the New York attack and had filmed the collapse of the towers. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html Later, these men were interviewed on Israeli television and said that they were there to ‘document’ the event.
Rudi Guliani, Mayor of New York at the time of the attacks, said in TV interview that the Twin Towers were likely to collapse. In view of the fact that no steel-framed building had collapsed due to fire anywhere in the world, this seemed like foreknowledge.
8. Prior examples of false flag operations
Those who baulk at the suggestion that elements within a ‘democratic’ government could organize attacks on its own people to provide the excuse to attack another country need look no further than ‘Operation Northwoods’, details of which were later de-classified. Operation Northwoods was a plan put forward by General Lemnitzer and other military top brass in 1962. The proposal involved a series of ‘false flag’ operations in which U.S. citizens would have been killed in simulated terrorist attacks to provide justification to invade Cuba. President Kennedy rejected the proposal. ‘Operation Northwoods’ is but one of many historical examples of false flag operations, the best-known being the Reichstag Fire, started by the Nazis and blamed on the communists in order to justify the passing of the Enabling Act that destroyed any freedoms under the old Weimar Republic. The passing of the ‘Patriot Act’ shortly after 911 was an uncanny parallel. The Patriot Act effectively shredded many citizens’ rights previously guaranteed under the Constitution. As Mark Twain said, “history may not repeat itself, but it does rhyme”.
A democracy can only survive if its citizens are informed and free to question their government, for which a fundamental prerequisite is the existence of untrammeled, independent media. If New Zealand democracy has friends like you and Radio New Zealand, who needs enemies?
BSA formal complaint: The Science of Conspiracy Theories on Radio NZ Nov. 20 2013
(The following is the full text of a formal complaint I filed with Radio New Zealand today, Dec. 02 2013. I encourage others to file similar complaints on this or other broadcasts as there is ample ground to do so. For example, someone could easily file a complaint based on Dr Pollard’s comments about 9/11. Sorry, the text isn’t formatted because the complaint has to be pasted into a form that takes only text. I will make links to the numbered footnotes at the bottom. I will also post comments to this post when I hear from Radio New Zealand. This is my first ever complaint, so no matter what happens, it will be a learning experience.)
This complaint consists of an Executive Summary, a Complaint outline, detailed documentation that supports the complaint and a conclusion. A direct transcript of the relevant sections of the interview is at the end of the document.
Standard 4 – Controversial Issues – Viewpoints
While this complaint cites a specific interview, I find the Nine to Noon show to be consistently the most one-sided on controversial topics of all Radio New Zealand programmes with a serious journalistic intent. A “reasonable range of views” certainly did not feature in this interview.
Standard 5 – Accuracy
The interviewee made many misleading statements presented as facts, not as opinions, in his role as a scientist and science expert. While he was asked pro forma challenging questions by Ms Ryan, none of his actual statements were challenged.
STANDARD 6 – Fairness
“Broadcasters should deal fairly with any person or organisation taking part or referred to.”
People referred to (so-called conspiracy theorists) were not dealt with fairly, being dismissed as immune to factual evidence, of forming beliefs through fear, instinct and pattern recognition. By inference, conspiracy theorists do not employ cognitive skills in forming their beliefs.
STANDARD 7 – Discrimination and Denigration
“Broadcasters should not encourage discrimination against, or denigration of, any section of the community on account of sex, sexual orientation, race, age, disability, occupational status, or as a consequence of legitimate expression of religion, culture or political belief.”
People with political views not endorsed by governments and mainstream media were discriminated against (not represented) and denigrated.
END Executive Summary
BEGIN Complaint – brief statement
Standard 4 – Controversial Issues – Viewpoints
The controversial issues of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (in this interview presented two days prior to the 50th anniversary of the event – surely no coincidence) and the 9/11 terrorist attacks were prominently mentioned. My complaint focuses on the JFK assassination content.
A “reasonable range of views” was not presented. Two sources of information were cited, a former Secret Service agent and a witness to the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), though Dr Pollard named neither the Secret Service agent (apparently Clint Hill), nor the specific body (HSCA). The sources were mentioned as though they were credible witnesses to the assassination, which they most surely were not. The possibility of untruthfulness on the part of these witnesses was not mentioned, despite the fact that evidence for their untruthfulness is in the public record. Dr Pollard made other misleading statements, but these could be considered more as matters of uninformed and biased opinion rather than fact.
Standard 5 – Accuracy
Dr Pollard is presented on RNZ as a “science commentator”, but his false and misleading statements were presented as facts, not as political opinions or as speculative commentary on the part of an informed person. This complaint is related to Standard 4, but there is a connection here between controversial subjects (political assassinations, terrorist attacks and the subject of “conspiracy theories”) and scientific and otherwise verifiable facts, therefore I make my complaint on both grounds.
STANDARD 6 – Fairness
“Broadcasters should deal fairly with any person or organisation taking part or referred to.”
While Dr Pollard did not refer to any particular person or organisation, he did refer to “conspiracy theorists” as a group. I will happily put myself forward as a person whom Dr Pollard would call a “conspiracy theorist”, and am a member of an organisation that Dr Pollard would certainly label as a group of “conspiracy theorists”, New Zealanders for 9/11 Truth.
The unfairness lies in the manner in which he describes the automatic, instinctive non-cognitive mental process that “conspiracy theorists” employ when they form their political opinions and beliefs. By dismissing conspiracy theorists as holding non-factual, non-logical beliefs, he unfairly dismisses both the beliefs and the people who hold such beliefs.
STANDARD 7 – Discrimination and Denigration
Dr Pollard denigrated people who hold non-mainstream political opinions. Nine to noon routinely discriminates against them by never talking to any of them, only about them in a deprecatory manner.
END Complaint brief statement
BEGIN Detailed complaint
Standard 4 – Controversial Issues – Viewpoints
First, we need to define our terms.
Conspiracy: A plot or plan of action formed by two or more people at least partly in secret.
Theory: In this case, an explanation for a conspiracy.
Conspiracy Theory: A theory about a conspiracy.
Conspiracy Theorist: A person who entertains or puts forth a conspiracy theory.
Obviously, these definitions do not suffice in the modern context of “conspiracy theory” as epithet, not as a neutral definition . Every policeman and prosecutor is required to put forth a conspiracy theory in order to justify the arrest or prosecution of alleged criminals. These people are not generally called “crazy conspiracy theorists” except possibly by defence attorneys.
The terms “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” were first put into wide use by the CIA in letters to its media assets in the mid-1960s. The CIA used friendly mainstream media to help combat widespread doubts about the 1964 Warren Commission (1)(1a). This pejorative epithet lost its lexical relevance once the era of political assassinations blamed on “lone nuts” was superseded by political scandals and terrorist plots, all of which by definition involved conspiracies. The official government and mainstream media view of Watergate, Iran Contra, the Oklahoma City bombings and the 1993 and 2001 World Trade Center bombings was that all were conspiracy theories, since they involved secret plots involving two or more people.
What then is meant by the still-current epithets “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorists”? Furthermore, why are these non-descriptive terms used by educated people to refer to mistaken beliefs that do not involve conspiracies, such as flat earthers and “incorrect” religious beliefs? The answer is obvious: a conspiracy theory is simply an opinion or belief not held by government and mainstream media, and a conspiracy theorist is someone who entertains a non-standard belief or opinion.
Therefore, hereinafter I will refer to people such as myself as conspiracy theorists, but also as Authority Questioners, or AQs.
The next section outlines the complaint in terms of:
STANDARD 6 – Fairness
“Broadcasters should deal fairly with any person or organisation taking part or referred to.”
Dr Pollard would have you believe that I as an Authority Questioner (AQ) do not arrive at my opinions by rational means. I quote from the interview in part. An extended transcript is at the end of this document.
“You know we’ve talked before on the show about the way our brains work and that we just have the propensity to believe silly things. And we make up stories and that’s not our fault, it’s just part of how our brain is wired and so we see all these examples. And you know you look at strange religious beliefs, people denying the age of the earth. All these things sort of fit into a continuum and conspiracy theories really are a way of us making sense of random events, especially those that would scare us. And I think that that we are not good at accepting simple explanations and on top of that we are very very good at looking for patterns in things. And given the way we record the world now you know any event, any extraordinary event will be followed by conspiracy theories.”
“I think that yeah no I think that we the thing with conspiracy theory is it’s immune to evidence. That’s the most important thing. And a very recent example you know was the horrific umm bombing in the Boston Marathon. Instantly there were conspiracy theories, one saying it was faked, and then there was someone saying it was connected with 9/11 because don’t you remember that two planes from Boston that were involved in 9/11. It came from Boston; therefore the Boston bombing must be connected. So it’s those looking for those patterns, but as I say the most important thing is it’s immune to evidence.”
Here Dr Pollard uses the logical fallacy known as the Straw Man in reference to the Boston bombings (2). I followed non-mainstream media very closely for several days after the Boston bombings. I never read anything like the stories he describes. I would be interested to know where he got these stories, or if he perhaps invented them out of whole cloth. Certainly none of my conspiracy theorist (AQ) friends would entertain such foolish notions.
Dr Pollard also accuses the AQ community of forming their beliefs out of instinct and fear. On the contrary, it is the gullible believers of mainstream conspiracy theories who react in fear. They are the ones who fear Muslim terrorist bogeymen, not us.
There are other false accusations about the AQ community in Dr Pollard’s comments, but underlying his accusations is the canard of non-rationality. How do we arrive at our beliefs, if not out of instinct and irrational fear?
We employ traditional or Aristotelian logic, which can be described in at least three different ways, each a three-step process:
1. The journalist’s famous friends of
(a) Who, What, Where and When (the facts)
(b) Why (assembling the facts in a logical manner)
(c) How (the written or oral explanation of the logic used)
2. Computer speak:
3. The Trivium (more correctly the Trivium method)
(a) Grammar (general grammar, or basic facts)
(b) Formal Logic
(c) Classical Rhetoric (3)
Contrary to Dr Pollard’s false assertion, evidence is the foundation of our opinions, not a fear-based instinctive reaction.
Another method for denigrating those who hold non-received opinions was introduced by Ms Ryan:
“Then you get bits of evidence and this is where pattern selection is so interesting. It’s psychology essentially that we’re talking about.”
That’s correct, we AQs question authority because of our defective psychology. Dr Pollard agrees, “Well it is, yes.” This oft-used canard is used in almost every anti-AQ interview or article I have read.
The next section focuses on
Standard 5 – Accuracy
Before I mention specific inaccuracies it is important to note the misuse of logic so common in propagandistic articles and interviews.
The most common misuse of the three-step process is putting the first two steps in the wrong order, using one’s logic or reasoning before considering relevant facts. When the logic of a matter is pre-determined before all available facts are considered, the logic will inevitably be faulty. This basic error can be intentional or unintentional; intentional when used by skilled propagandists and unintentional when used by people who have not been trained properly and merely repeat what they have been told. The rigorous training that journalists and scientists undergo should prevent them from making such mistakes by accident.
Here is an example of Dr Pollard using logic (a “why”) before he considers any facts (omitting his numerous misstatements and use of other logical fallacies) in reference to the 9/11 attacks:
“Now, what I always say on those things is it’s difficult enough for two people to keep a secret let alone have all these people being involved with going into a building that had 40 to 50 thousand people working in it filling it with explosives with the intention of killing everybody, now admittedly on the day only thr… you know three and a half thousand people died, not 50 thousand, but still you’d think somebody on their deathbeds I really have to tell you this, this is what happened, umm and and John Kennedy’s assassination is exactly the same.”
Never mind that certain people did actually talk, and never mind the reasons why someone in that situation would never talk, and never mind the other howlers in that paragraph; Dr Pollard’s logic tells him that “someone would have talked”, therefore the lucky Muslim terrorists pulled it off!
The interview prominently featured two misstatements involving the JFK assassination that were deliberate errors of omission. Here is Dr Pollard on the subject of the Umbrella Man:
“…and my favourite account umm of the Kennedy assassination of where there is where a conspiracy is made where there is none was, it was a sunny day and yet very close to where Kennedy’s car would drive past there was a man holding a black umbrella, and he event… and people said, “Oh he was signalling shooters and another one said well he had a very elaborate setup in his umbrella, so he fired a poisonous dart at the President. The thing what, all he was doing was he was protesting about Kennedy’s father’s appeasement to Nazis with Neville Chamberlain prior to World War 2. And so his protest was how the Kennedys were involved in this appeasement to Hitler. And Neville Chamberlain always had was epitomised by having a black umbrella in fact in political cartoons in the 30s he had on a black umbrella and Kennedy had also done a thesis on this time in England and so this guy said you know this is my silent protest cos he figured that John Kennedy would know what he meant by a black umbrella. But the funny thing is when he had to go eventually umm to a select committee in fact in 1978 and expl… and he still had the umbrella and he gave his explanation, but he said to them, he said that if the Guinness Book of Records had a category for people who were in, who were at the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong thing that he would be number one.”
If one is unfamiliar with this story, it will seem simply incredible. That’s because it is. Dr Pollard omits the following from his account:
1. The Umbrella Man, who may or may not have actually been the HSCA witness, Louis Witt, was photographed in close proximity to a dark-complexioned man of a Latin American appearance who raised his fist around the same time as Umbrella Man raised his umbrella.
2. After the shooting, the two men calmly sat down next to each other on a kerb, whilst other spectators are in a panic, many lying on the ground, and many running towards the picket fence on the grassy knoll, whence they heard shots being fired. After talking briefly, they walk off in opposite directions.
3. The Latin looking man has what appears to be a walkie-talkie in his pocket and appears to talk on it.
4. Witt claimed not to see the murder because he was trying to open his umbrella, but photographs show that he must have seen the shooting. He also related a story about a motorcycle policeman and a car running up onto the President’s car. No one saw or photographed such an accident. He claimed not to know the Latin-looking man and failed to notice that he had and used a radio device while he was sitting with him on the kerb. There were other problems with his testimony, such as accounting for his presence, which he said was accidental.
5. There is no actual proof that the Umbrella Man is in fact Mr Witt, nor that the umbrella he had at the HSCA hearings was the same umbrella. It appeared to have a different number of staves from the original umbrella. (4)(5)(6)
Even if the man who testified was the real Mr Witt, his testimony contains too many details that cannot possibly be true. His untruthfulness, along with the slipshod interrogation he faced from the Dallas police and the HSCA, rules him out as a credible witness. If I found information contradictory to Dr Pollard’s exposition inside of a minute, then Dr Pollard could have done so as well.
Dr Pollard’s other conspiracy theory debunker was an unnamed Secret Service agent. He was apparently referring to Clint Hill, author of “Mrs. Kennedy and Me: An Intimate Memoir” (7). Dr Pollard said:
“And and you know it’s very interesting I happened to online read an article this morning umm actually the Guardian has been doing lots of articles on the Kennedy assassination and it was the secret service agent that was assigned to Jackie Kennedy has written a book and I mean he you know he said he suffered enormously from this. Could he have saved the President, etc. And you know he says he’s a trained secret service man he said there were three distinct shots that came from the book depository building and all the evidence is there were three shots and this one person did it.”
If you read the excerpt from Mr Hill’s Warren Commission testimony in the Wikipedia article I cite, you will see that he contradicts the Warren Commission’s finding that the President was killed by a shot from the rear. The blown out back of the head could only have come from a frontal shot; the blown out portion could not possibly be the result of an entrance wound. He also did not say that he heard “three distinct shots”.
Gerald Ford, a leading member of the Warren Commission, admitted to changing the location of the President’s back entrance wound, moving it up six inches in order to accommodate Arlen Specter’s Magic Bullet theory.(8) Clint Hill, in his original Warren Commission testimony (questioned by Rep. Hale Boggs) testifies to seeing the actual back wound:
Representative BOGGS: “Did you see any other wound other than the head wound?”
Mr. HILL: “Yes, sir; I saw an opening in the back, about 6 inches below the neckline to the right-hand side of the spinal column.” (9)
Mr Hill has helpfully changed his story in his book to raise the wound six inches, making his revised story align with the Warren Commission’s false placement of the back wound. For this and many other reasons not cited here, I find Clint Hill to be an unreliable witness. By citing Mr Hill’s story, Dr Pollard committed the logical fallacies of Appeal to Emotion (10) and Appeal to Authority (11). In the latter case, Mr Hill could possibly have been an authority owing to his occupation and assignment, but his contradictory testimony eliminates him as a trusted authority or even a reliable witness.
I request that Radio New Zealand:
1. admit to one-sided treatment of the controversial issue of the JFK assassination (Standard 4). A reasonable range of views was not allowed at this time or any other time on this or any other Nine to Noon programme. This is particularly egregious given the coincidence of the programme’s broadcast almost 50 years to the day after the assassination. Additionally, a majority of Americans do not support the establishment view of regular guest, Simon Pollard on this topic.
2. admit that they treated people who hold non-mainstream political opinions as mentally and psychologically deficient (Standard 6) and that under Standard 7 the expression of their political beliefs should never be taken seriously, as those views are always arrived at by fear and instinct, not by intellectual means. Radio New Zealand thereby discriminated against and denigrated those of us who do not hold the establishment political views of Kathryn Ryan and Simon Pollard.
3. admit to biased, inaccurate and misleading reporting by Dr Pollard in his role as science commentator, reporting that went unchallenged by the host, Kathryn Ryan (Standard 5). Dr Pollard presented what may be kindly regarded as half-truths in that he presented certain facts about Clint Hill and the Umbrella Man, omitting facts that would lead the average listener to the opposite conclusion he wanted them to make.
KR: It seems slightly contradictory to have the science of conspiracy theories – slightly oxymoronic.
SP: (laughs) It is rather. But not really. I think that ummm… You know we’ve talked before on the show about the way our brains work and that we just have the propensity to believe silly things. And we make up stories and that’s not our fault, it’s just part of how our brain is wired and so we see all these examples. And you know you look at strange religious beliefs, people denying the age of the earth. All these things sort of fit into a continuum and and conspiracy theories really are a way of us making sense of random events, especially those that would scare us. And I think that that we are not good at accepting simple explanations and on top of that we are very very good at looking for patterns in things. And given the way we record the world now you know any event, any extraordinary event will be followed by conspiracy theories.
SP: and I think that and I
SP: I think a nice example and look I give you an example, a very recent example.
KR: (laughs) But what makes it a conspiracy theory? I mean people did think the world was flat. So when the dude suggested it was round..
SP: I mean, you look out your window. I think that yeah no I think that we the thing with conspiracy theory is it’s immune to evidence. That’s the most important thing. And a very recent example you know was the horrific um bombing in the Boston Marathon. Instantly there were conspiracy theories, one saying it was faked, and then there was someone saying it was connected with 9/11 because don’t you remember that two planes from Boston that were involved in 9/11. It came from Boston, therefore the Boston bombing must be connected. So it’s those looking for those patterns, but as I say the most important thing is it’s immune to evidence. And people that push conspiracy theories will never listen to the most compelling evidence from an expert and I think umm you know we look at 9/11 and OK people used planes as bombs and they took down two hundred storey buildings. I think that another part of conspiracy umm another part of events at least (? or “of these”?) conspiracy theories is often what happens does have a component of good luck. And if you think of 9/11, you know, everything went that way on the day. They managed to take over the planes and they managed to fly them into buildings and I’m sure it was totally beyond their expectation that the buildings would fall over. But people just couldn’t except (accept?) that and even you know a very very good account from an engineer that’s an expert on what happens to big buildings that have had planes fly into them that’s not enough so you know the current theory with 9/11 is that the government whoever planted explosives on every floor of those buildings prior to some other thing that it wasn’t a plane or a missile or whatever. Now, what I always say on those things is it’s difficult enough for two people to keep a secret let alone have all these people being involved with going into a building that had 40 to 50 thousand people working in it filling it with explosives with the intention of killing everybody, now admittedly on the day only thr… you know three and a half thousand people died, not 50 thousand, but still you’d think somebody on their deathbeds I really have to tell you this, this is what happened, umm and and John Kennedy’s assassination is exactly the same. If you step back from it and say, “could a marine-trained sniper hit a human moving in a slow-moving vehicle from 80 meters away”, of course you’re going to say, “yes”, but no that’s not enough. It has to be a conspiracy.
KR: I’m sure that’s back at the moment, obviously with the anniversary right now.
KR: Then you get bits of evidence and this is where pattern selection is so interesting. It’s psychology essentially that we’re talking about.
SP: Well it is, yes.
KR: Because we pick the things that support our theory and we exclude the things that don’t. And there was the extra sh… sound of the sound of the so-called extra shots, wasn’t there?
KR: Which I think has been debunked in recent days.
KR: … as being another sound or something to do with the quality of the recording.
SP: And, look, I know..
KR: And the conspiracy theorist then says, “Ah, and that’s what they’re telling you.”
SP: And (nonsense omitted)
KR: But scepticism about the excuse that’s given is a natural part of the process.
SP: And and you know it’s very interesting I happened to online read an article this morning umm actually the Guardian has been doing lots of articles on the Kennedy assassination and it was the secret service agent it was assigned to Jackie Kennedy has written a book (2) and I mean he you know he said he suffered enormously from this. Could he have saved the President, etc. And you know he says he’s a trained secret service man he said there were three distinct shots that came from the book depository building and all the evidence is there were three shots and this one person did it. And yet, as I say, you know because things were filmed and there were still photographs of the event then people look for patterns and the Oliver Stone film did an enormous amount of damage in terms of the credibility of what was really a good explanation of what happened but you know you have a still photograph of three people looking shady in the distance therefore they did this and my favourite account umm of the Kennedy assassination of where there is where a conspiracy is made where there is none was, it was a sunny day and yet very close to where Kennedy’s car would drive past there was a man holding a black umbrella, and he event… and people said, “Oh he was signalling shooters and another one said well he had a very elaborate setup in his umbrella, so he fired a poisonous dart at the President. The thing what, all he was doing was he was protesting about Kennedy’s father’s appeasement to Nazis with Neville Chamberlain prior to World War 2. And so his protest was how the Kennedys were involved in this appeasement to Hitler. And Neville Chamberlain always had was epitomised by having a black umbrella in fact in political cartoons in the 30s he had on a black umbrella and Kennedy had also done a thesis on this time in England and so this guy said you know this is my silent protest cos he figured that John Kennedy would know what he meant by a black umbrella. But the funny thing is when he had to go eventually umm to a select committee in fact in 1978 and expl.. and he still had the umbrella and he gave his explanation, but he said to them, he said that if the Guinness Book of Records had a category for people who were in, who were at the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong thing that he would be number one.
KR: If we didn’t have sceptics, though, who had that mindset or that psychology and looked for inconsistencies and looked for patterns there is an awful lot of truth that we would not find out…
SP: Well, that’s true…
KR: you know you can’t just sit there, if we just sit there and swallow everything that you are presented by authorities…
KR: much of it will be lies and untruth and propaganda.
SP: Absolutely and conspiracy theories often do have components of truth because governments do cover up things and so it’s not like you are starting with a clean slate, you know if you look at Watergate, if you look at the I-ran contra thing, these were things that governments covered up, things so it’s very easy for people to then extrapolate that, that a distrust of authority will mean that any event must have been the government. Another favourite of mine of course is the moon landings
(10.29 – 13.15 discussion of moon landings (sic) omitted.)
KR: Is there, does psychology suggest there is a certain personality type that is always going to see this and do this, and someone else is going to be gullible and always believe what they are fed?
SP: The best predictor of somebody who believes in conspiracy theories is that they will believe in other conspiracy theories. This isn’t saying that these people aren’t intelligent people, they’re not the sort of fringe of society at all but they often have a distrust of authority, they might feel powerless in situations, and so, and also people that, you know, they love finding evidence and putting a picture together no matter how silly that picture is. I think there is just this tendency in us and and some people have argued that it’s mixed up with parts of our brain, you know when a random thing happened in our evolutionary history, part of our brain would send messages to the amigdyla would send messages to other parts of the brain to start analysing flat out what’s going on. You know, is the mammoth going to keep running, do I hide behind the rock, etc., and I think that that the tendency to over-analyse random events that scare us is still with us today and it is a part of our society.
KR: That would not be any fun without it.
SP: Absolutely not (both laugh).
KR: Thank you, Simon Pollard, science…
Video – TheRealNews
Paul Jay asks Senator Graham if a culture of “not wanting to know” was created to prevent the conspiracy from being uncovered and to protect the role of the Saudi government.
Posted November 28, 2013
The vile religion of Patriotism.
Benjamin Griffin (born 1977) is a former British SAS soldier who refused to return to Iraq and left the Army, citing not only the “illegal” tactics of United States troops and the policies of coalition forces but also that the invasion itself was contrary to international law. He expected to be court-martialled, but was instead let go with a glowing testimonial from his commanding officer. He spoke to an anti-war rally in 2008 about UK involvement in extraordinary rendition the day before he was served with an injunction preventing him from speaking publicly and from publishing material about his time in the SAS.
He is the founder of Veterans for Peace in the UK – http://veteransforpeace.org.uk/
Posted November 28, 2013
ABOUT THE OXFORD UNION SOCIETY:
The Union is the world’s most prestigious debating society, with an unparalleled reputation for bringing international guests and speakers to Oxford. It has been established for 189 years, aiming to promote debate and discussion not just in Oxford University, but across the globe.
9/11 and the Collapse of WTC Building 7: The BBC’s Role in Distorting the Evidence and Misleading the Public
By Peter Drew
Global Research, November 22, 2013
On September 11th, 2001, the world changed and the endless war on terror was unleashed across the globe. First Afghanistan was invaded, and then Saddam Hussein and Iraq were also mysteriously implicated in 9/11 as the public were sold the case for the invasion of another oil rich nation.
Twelve years on from 9/11, more than one million innocent lives have been claimed, and the so called global war on terror has reached into every corner of the planet.
The NSA has taken 9/11 as a necessity to implement a global communications vacuum cleaner, attempting to hoover up and analyse every single piece of human electronic communication on the planet, using this data to identify human rights activists and trying to put in jail anyone who attempts to expose this. President Bush rolled out the Patriot Act within days of 9/11 which allows the US government to do just about anything it likes, all in the name of counter terrorism and National Security.
This has since been followed by President Obama quietly sneaking through the NDAA (National Defence Authorisation Act) on New Year’s Eve 2011 which allows him to legally assassinate or imprison for life anyone he wants to without any evidence required at all, a power that he has already exercised. Add to this also the fact that we now have hundreds of human-less military drones criss-crossing our skies killing innocent women and children in their hundreds, with no accountability, as the US military supposedly tries to nullify individuals who the NSA, through their communications hoovering activities, have deemed to be potential terrorist suspects. All of this is justified by our authorities on the back of 9/11 because it is needed to keep us all safe.
But have we been given a true picture about the global war on terror, and in particular, have we been given the true picture and the true facts about the key event that was the catalyst for the war on terror, namely 9/11? The public relies heavily on the mainstream media as its means of finding out information about the world and for forming its opinions about global political events. So are we getting the information that we should be from these corporate media networks? Or are these media networks being overly influenced in their content and political messaging by powerful corporate agendas which may be profiting heavily from the very same military activities that are being justified by those corporate media networks? This is certainly a very worthy point of discussion it its own right, but surely one media network in particular would be immune from these kinds of potential corporate or political influences .
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Americans Are Finally Learning About False Flag Terror
Posted on November 24, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog Governments from around the world admit they carry out false flag terror:
■A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland. Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson
■Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union’s Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939, and declared that the fire originated from Finland as a basis launching the Winter War four days later
■Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this)
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The Deep State and 9/11
The unthinkable – that elements inside the state would conspire with criminals to kill innocent civilians – has become not only thinkable but commonplace in the last century. A seminal example was in French Algeria, where dissident elements of the French armed forces, resisting General de Gaulle’s plans for Algerian independence, organized as the Secret Army Organization and bombed civilians indiscriminately, with targets including hospitals and schools.1 Critics like Alexander Litvinenko, who was subsequently murdered in London in November 2006, have charged that the 1999 bombings of apartment buildings around Moscow, attributed to Chechen separatists, were in fact the work of the Russian secret service (FSB).2
Similar attacks in Turkey have given rise to the notion there of an extra-legal “deep state” – a combination of forces, ranging from former members of the CIA-organized Gladio organization, to “a vast matrix of security and intelligence officials, ultranationalist members of the Turkish underworld and renegade former members of the [Kurdish separatist] PKK.”3 The deep state, financed in part by Turkey’s substantial heroin traffic, has been accused of killing thousands of civilians, in incidents such as the lethal bomb attack in November 2005 on a bookshop in Semdinli. This attack, initially attributed to the Kurdish separatist PKK, turned out to have been committed by members of Turkey’s paramilitary police intelligence service, together with a former PKK member turned informer.4 On April 23, 2008, the former Interior Minister Mehmet Agar was ordered to stand trial for his role in this dirty war during the 1990s.5
In my book The Road to 9/11, I have argued that there has existed, at least since World War Two if not earlier, an analogous American deep state, also combining intelligence officials with elements from the drug-trafficking underworld.6 I also pointed to recent decades of collaboration between the U.S. deep state and al-Qaeda, a terrorist underworld whose drug-trafficking activities have been played down in the 9/11 Commission Report and the mainstream U.S. media.7
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